Sep 21, 2018, 9:34 AM
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Going to be in KSA for a week this winter. Wondering if there are any jumpers/known spots to jump from and if it’s worth bringing a rig. I’ll mostly be around Riyadh and the Tuwayq Mountains looked somewhat promising. Only ever seen the Steve Morrell video and this newer one. Thanks.
Hello, to answer your questions, yes there are places to jump including all 4 objects, If you gonna be in Riyadh for a week you will have good number of jumps as the weather allows and the situations. Sept. 23rd was our 88th national days which I celebrated it on a base jumper way. where you can see it in the following connection. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka06GLCUaxw&t=1s
Nice video! That second jump has me curious though. Looks like a static line jump, but I don't see any bridle and/or PC after the opening. I assume that you didn't have a PC attached and that the bridle is just too small to make out in the video.
Dude what are your reasons for not jumping with a PC even on a static line jump? I’m not preaching to you just curious. What if your attachment point broke early? What if you didn’t attach at all? Better to be safe than sorry!
Sep 29, 2018, 10:46 PM
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The antenna jump was a static line, ofcourse I took off the PC. I know having the PC attached is another safety measure during a static line jump however that is not always true, though from the antena with all those bars around and that kind of gusty wind that you could see part of it in the video, there is a chance of having the PC with the bridle rapped around, so I thought having the PC not attached is safer, after having all the security measures about the static line connections which was thoroughly examined and tested ahead of time, and later on at the object exit point,
The reason that you don't see the bridle after jumping is the distance from the camera guy on the ground and the exit point.
You might say so if the height is that far why to use a static line then, my answer to you is that the one who did object evaluation is the best person who should decide about what way to use to get away from the object safer.
This antena is on top of a mountain elevation which is about 1000 feet from ground, and the wind is crazy gusty, so the earliest that you could be stable to handle the canopy flight is the best, and this jump was safe and ended with leaving this object safe. You might ask so why to choose this antena with that situation and the answer is that, this was the only one nearby and could jump it without getting arrested.
This jump is my second from this object, my first one was stowed and because of wind issues, and bad judgment, I left the scene with some mild injuries, so I learned my lessons.
No PC. That's fucking LOOSE. That's 100% commitment to the static line.
Awww, Come on ya wuss, If you can't jump without a PC ya shouldn't....... The iffiest thing about doing so, is testing the rigging. Once you have that down, I see no negatives. There are enough static line systems with very high reliability. Just as high a reliability as a 3 ring release system. Is one "LOOSE" because they jump a 3 ring sys on a single canopy rig? Are you overreacting or am I under reacting? I do understand the psychological comfort of having a PC on a static line jump. But it is all fluff. Take care, space
The PC can be removed, but 99% of the time the right call is to leave the pilot chute on the bridle.
OCD freaks and riggers can definitely execute a jump without one, but Channing Armstrong is on the BFL and likely wouldn't be had he had a PC.
As for controlling a PC in strong tail winds, one solution is to larks head an office rubber band onto the steel, then slip your PC into it, so you are hands free and snag free at exit time.
Bad reason to leave a PC off. There’s been rigging errors before and premature breakage. At least one fatality that would have been prevented with a PC. If you tie your static line to the middle of the bridle (I hope you’re not tying it to the end especially if you don’t have a PC) you can hold your PC as you jump and drop it right as your pins are poping and unless the antenna has big underhung snaghazard it will clear. Especially if you have a tailwind or left to right tailwind. You can also larkshead a rubberband to the antenna and use to hold the hat of the PC and with a solid push your PC will trail off away from the object and shouldn’t snag.
Either way I’d rather have a ripped PC than to go in from a rigging error or premature breakage.
