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kiss_the_sky

Dec 6, 2017, 12:58 PM
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Just wanted some opinions , the original lines on my canopy were just set to length with lots of excess. For the longest time I just set my toggles to where it felt best for deep brakes and flare and tied a bunch of knots to mitigate the excess. 98% of my jumps were slider down, but I've been doing some S/U lately so I finger trapped my lines to remove the excess line as well as mainly so I could re-install my WLO toggles. My long winded question is, I do not have access to a sewing machine to run a bartack or straight stitch to help secure the finger trap. As I don't want to tie a knot ( to prevent a knot hang-up in the Guide rings in the event I have to release the toggles) would it be suitable to just jump them configured as is? The excess of the finger trap runs a good 5-6 inches back inside the line.

Cheers,

- Rick


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OLopez

Dec 6, 2017, 1:30 PM
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You can do this (attached, too big to embed)
google for 'no sew fingertrap', or alternatively 'locking eye splice' for more options

ETA: And just cut the excess off...?


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benbarclay

Dec 6, 2017, 3:07 PM
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I would put a few manual tacks in the line with a needle and thread for my own peace of mind. The finger trap should not move under load if you didn't tack it but the extra safety provided by a few stitches i wouldn't
gamble without a few stitches..

TomAiello

Dec 6, 2017, 3:29 PM
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Just hand tack them with a needle and thread. If you have enough line finger trapped in there, the sewing is just to prevent it sliding around when it's not under tension.

Fledgling

Dec 6, 2017, 6:53 PM
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OLopez wrote:
You can do this (attached, too big to embed)
google for 'no sew fingertrap',

I doubt this would be possible with heavy dacron. And if it was it would be a pretty shitty version of the No Sew. Works great on thin lines though.

TomAiello

Dec 6, 2017, 9:13 PM
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I've done it on heavy dacron. It works in a pinch, but in this application it wouldn't really be a good idea, because you're still in the process of adjusting the brakes and finding a new toggle setting, and the 'no sew' won't let you do any more adjustments.

AntoineLaporte

Dec 7, 2017, 12:23 AM
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As some others I would do it by hand.
If you have the normal minimum 7-8cm trapped the sewing is just here to maintain it in place when you do not have tension on it.

OLopez

Dec 7, 2017, 9:33 AM
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Fledgling wrote:
OLopez wrote:
You can do this (attached, too big to embed)
google for 'no sew fingertrap',

I doubt this would be possible with heavy dacron. And if it was it would be a pretty shitty version of the No Sew. Works great on thin lines though.

It does work on dacron, it's not pretty and it takes a bunch of massaging the line, but it does the job.

Tom is right though. Once it's in and set it's not coming back out


(This post was edited by OLopez on Dec 7, 2017, 9:36 AM)

flite

Dec 10, 2017, 7:39 AM
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Anyone ever tried superglue ?

base283

Dec 10, 2017, 11:39 AM
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Super glue only glues flesh. Just try needle and thread (dental floss, fishing line. Google "backstitch" (handsewn) for the stitch. Or #B, Find the optimum toggle setting length for slider up, bartack it and just do an extra loop over the back of the toggle for using the slider off/down LRM. Will post photos if needed. Note; I am not sure if this will work on WLO toggles. Maybe having a 2nd set of toggles for SD is better with this last method.


take care,
space


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rushchaser

Dec 11, 2017, 7:55 AM
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Hi Space,

Would you please post a photo of this, I don't quite understand what you mean by the extra loop over the back of the toggle?

base283 wrote:
do an extra loop over the back of the toggle for using the slider off/down LRM

base283

Dec 11, 2017, 11:01 AM
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Here ya go.
Take care,
space
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