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ksandr

Mar 13, 2017, 2:57 AM
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It was started from talk with James Boole and became an online ranking. Task there is to fly as far as possible using 200 meters of altitude after exit.

Few days ago Alexey Shatilov set new record - 559 meters and Valery Rozov took first place with 576 meters.

Video with gps data of Alexey's jump can be found here:
https://skyderby.ru/tracks/9055/video

Ranking scoreboard here:
https://skyderby.ru/virtual_competitions/9

Check it out.

MrAW

Mar 13, 2017, 4:10 AM
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Cool idea. Smile

unclecharlie95

Mar 13, 2017, 5:25 AM
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The top scores show how significant the role of wind and thermal conditions can be during exit. Amazing numbers Shocked

MattvB91

Mar 13, 2017, 8:05 AM
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Nice!

Ronald

Mar 13, 2017, 8:42 AM
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Yes, impressive. Beyond me.
That said: suit, wind, thermals are all factors beside the pilot. So, before people start bragging, think of that ;-)

GreenMachine

Mar 13, 2017, 9:00 AM
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RE: significant ... role of wind and thermal conditions

I do not wingsuit, but I am glad more people
are bringing up and discussing Microclimatology.

I think this is an area that Paragliders are much
more educated on than most SKY & BASE jumpers.

OLopez

Mar 13, 2017, 11:03 AM
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How come everyone is hitting GR's of between 10 and 12 to 1 at around the 10s mark? Is there something dodgy going on with the software or those windy/thermal conditions are off the hook?

ETA: Just had another look through the list and there's something very dodgy with it... I know Espen is one of the best pilots in the business, but getting a climb of 25m 7 seconds after exit in a Scorpion? And an exit profile of 75/156 at 8, and 100/270 at 10s? No fricking way.

Is there any way to see the flysight files in that page?


(This post was edited by OLopez on Mar 13, 2017, 11:15 AM)

jakee

Mar 13, 2017, 12:10 PM
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ksandr wrote:
Video with gps data of Alexey's jump can be found here:
https://skyderby.ru/tracks/9055/video
Alberto's video from a few days ago went round the corner another 10 or so meters higher than that by my eyeShocked

Thermal conditions there must have been all timeCool

ksandr

Mar 13, 2017, 12:21 PM
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Files available to download to their owners only. However I've took a look on Espen's file and found that when he starts climb gps satellite fix reduced from 6 satellites to 4 and came back to 7 after 3 seconds. Anyway climbing from 100 km/h vertical speed in big wingsuit is not a problem.

robibird
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Mar 13, 2017, 1:41 PM
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........so should i send you data from inclined wind tunnel??
You may write - record is Robert Pecnik
G.R. endless
speed 36 m/s
distance 6km

I admit, it was strange day with strong constant wind!
ah, yes , suit was ONESIE

OLopez

Mar 13, 2017, 3:14 PM
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ksandr wrote:
Anyway climbing from 100 km/h vertical speed in big wingsuit is not a problem.

Is not the vertical speed, but the total airspeed that is important. He "starts pulling up" when he's doing 98km/h. That's near stall speed for most wingsuits, and even more for a Scorpion. There's no way in hell you can turn an airspeed of under 100km/h into a flare with which you climb up 25m. And a Scorpion is definitely not a big wingsuit.

Then apparently while flaring out, he's still accelerating horizontaly. In one second his vertical speed went down from to 62kmh to 17kmh, while his horizontal went up from from 87kmh to 137kmh. Then he's doing 184kmh when his vertical speed is a cool -16kmh. (There's a 'minus' symbol in front of that).

He went from 87kmh to 184kmh horizontal in 2 seconds while at the same time flaring and going up...

That breaks so many laws of physics that if it's real you should send the file to NASA so that they can rewrite the whole theory of the universe Wink

Same thing with Aleksei's tracks. While he's apparently flaring his horizontal speed is still accelerating, and he reached his top horizontal speed not just through the flare, but in the whole jump, at the apex of the 'flare' which makes no sense at all.

Do you get the same graphs if you run the files through flysight viewer or paralog?

P.s. Not saying he didn't do what he did, just that for that graph to make sense he must have got 30 to 40 kmh updrafts, which is pretty insane, though in fairness it sounds like he's russian, so probably thought it felt just a little bit breezy


(This post was edited by OLopez on Mar 13, 2017, 3:50 PM)

DuglhaQ

Mar 17, 2017, 1:08 PM
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We call this Magic Air in France :)
Playing already without knowing it in 2015 :)
Not beating the record though (500m?), but the rest of the flight is not a 2:1 stall....in a North Face :)
Have fun !!


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ksandr

Mar 20, 2017, 11:40 AM
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Just checked - 486 meters.
If you want you can sign up and take third place with this track :)

piisfish

Mar 20, 2017, 12:17 PM
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unclecharlie95 wrote:
The top scores show how significant the role of wind and thermal conditions can be during exit. Amazing numbers Shocked
isn't finding the best conditions part of the game ?

kleggo

Mar 20, 2017, 2:54 PM
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GreenMachine wrote:
RE: significant ... role of wind and thermal conditions

I do not wingsuit, but I am glad more people
are bringing up and discussing Microclimatology.

I think this is an area that Paragliders are much
more educated on than most SKY & BASE jumpers.


Dennis Pagen would agree with you

Wow, my copy is a collectors item based on amazon prices

https://www.amazon.com/...-Pagen/dp/0936310103

ksandr

May 2, 2017, 6:58 AM
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unclecharlie95 wrote:
The top scores show how significant the role of wind and thermal conditions can be during exit. Amazing numbers Shocked

Alexey just set new record - 672 m. And video represents your words.

https://skyderby.ru/tracks/9655/video

Scorp67

May 2, 2017, 10:12 AM
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That is some impressive lift he is getting along the ridge.
The air is rising around 30-50kph and he gains about 30m vertically while travelling about 220m forward


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