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Lonnie
Apr 15, 2012, 10:19 AM
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Re: [dantheman] me, me, me, look at me!
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WTF 
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Halfpastniner
Apr 15, 2012, 12:51 PM
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Re: [dantheman] me, me, me, look at me!
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I know you are "kind of a big deal" over there, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt here. Is this thing done/closed/impossible to do again and therefore its not really that big of a deal that you gave your videos to the media? Even still, I cant imagine going looking for trouble by posting videos of you trespassing. And whats up with those delays!? I again am giving you the benefit of the doubt that the only landing area was very far away. Anyway, hope the extra attention works out the way you want it to.
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Arvoitus
Apr 15, 2012, 1:21 PM
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Re: [Halfpastniner] me, me, me, look at me!
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I could be wrong, but looking at these pictures there is probably not going to be a lot of jumping done from it once its finished.
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Apr 15, 2012, 3:03 PM
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I'm trying to understand what you're trying to accomplish. Would you explain for me because this just seems despicable. Why would you burn a site for no reason?
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Huck
Apr 15, 2012, 4:32 PM
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What a jackass.... Way to put Base jumpers with terrorist with bombs... Someone find this stupid roofer..
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Apr 15, 2012, 5:23 PM
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WTF, a static line from 840ft what a fucking tosser, i can understand a static line from 126ft but, from 840ft, this fucker needs to be hunted down and tarred and feathered for his so called fame, what an idiot burning this object for the rest of the world of jumpers.
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Halfpastniner
Apr 15, 2012, 5:48 PM
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The guy in question started the thread 
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sabre210
Apr 16, 2012, 2:22 AM
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For those tearing their hair out, and getting moist in the groinal area, over the lack of delay and method of deployment, you need to understand 2 hugely important things. Firstly, that Dan is a pussy, and Secondly that if you genuinely think the length of delay from a building can be calculated by your height above street level then I look forward to reading your obits in the fatality thread some day soon.
Small,but not insignificant, factors such as whether a 5 second delay might have you bouncing majestically down, what is effectively, Europes largest and steepest children's play slide need to be considered somewhat. Additionally, factors including (but not limited to)wind direction and wind strength, flight distance to landing area, tidiness of the exit point, whether a running or poised exit is facilitated and getaway considerations might also play into your calculations. Add to those, gear configuration suitability, stealth issues (loud cracking canopies at 200ft above a police station, or gentle whoomfffing canopies at 700ft), and the presence of other high rise buildings in your opening zone.
Alternatively ignore all of the above, consult the thoughtfully provided freefall delay chart you received on your FJC, and have an utterly splendid and satisfying day.
For those tearing their hair out over the shameless self promotion - I sympathise entirely.
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jools
Apr 16, 2012, 3:18 AM
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It is also worth point out the Dan has more different B's then most of these muppets have actual jumps, even if you include ones from the Perrine that they plaster all over Youtube/Facebook!
I presume 126ft is your personal best? Did you have a can of RedBull to help get you off the edge because you are soooooo Extreeeeeeeeeeem! Oh sorry not extreeeeeem just a mad man
The B has not been jumpable for some time, the exit point was from the central lift shaft. The metal work below stuck out 60+ft and was 160-180ft to impact, not forgetting to mention the to crane jibs either side.Oh and on one occasion I can testify it was impossible to see the ground let alone the landing area. The fog was so thick, an on heading opening was pretty critical to avoid getting disorientated in the low fog London is famous (not as famous as Dan) for.
As 210 said it has become a very steep and expensive slide. With penthouse apartments selling for £50,000,000 YES £50M I don't think it would accessible even if it was physically possible to jump, which it is not.
A group of urban explores sold their story to the paper a few days previously and Dan cashed in. Good on him. Who would turn down £6000 for a little video footage?
There are around 6-8 UK jumpers who actually go out and find new objects on a regular basis. Dan has opened more objects in the UK than another jumper. Yes he likes his ugly mug in the papers but who doesn't? I bet you all have your Perrine pics on your Facebook pages.
Times have changed Deal with it! Sponsors (Just for Men) want their product in the public eye. Dan is just fulfilling his obligations to his sponsors.
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sabre210
Apr 16, 2012, 4:32 AM
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I'll add that it's certainly not my intention to get involved in some riotous flame war and perhaps i shouldn't have said anything at all, not least some jovial remarks.
Personally, I would have (had i still been Dan's jump partner and had his ear) strongly advised him not to give the interview to the Scum, irrespective of the fact that the cat was (well and truly) out of the bag due to some members of the Urban Exploration community claiming some inane bragging rights a few days before. Without question, the damage was already done to that building in particular and to 'building infiltration' as a whole, and Dan's contribution was a sneaky reach-around on Mr Securityman whilst the Urbexer's anal pounding was still throbbing. The point is, any measures security now take to prevent further undesirable Urban Explorers will also affect the BASE community. It's the same bag of bones to the authorities. They don't make the distinction you or I might.
Urban Exploration and BASE have tried to co-exist and draw up some rules of engagement which might work for both communities, and in all fairness, there have been some fruitful collaborations over the years and a mutual respect and tolerance for each other's activities has existed. Sadly, it requires no experience, no training and little imagination to grab a camera and go out looking to conquer the nearest tall building, so inevitably Urban Explorers have come into conflict with BASE jumpers in the past. Just as the BASE community can not regulate everything every jumper does (and nor should it desire to do so in my humble opinion) nor can the Urban exploration community keep a reign on it's adherents. C'est La Vie, as they say.
Having said ALL that, i still think it would have been wisest to stay under the radar and keep out the limelight. Therein lies the difference Dan and I often encountered as jump partners. He is the eternal optimist whilst i am the arch pessimist. Whilst I default to doom and gloom and long term negative ramifications, Dan defaults to a more positive belief that today's 'big deal' is all but forgotten by tomorrow or as they say in the UK; 'Today's headlines are tomorrow's fish and chip wrapping'. I've often thought that a tad glib myself, but there's no question that it's borne out by the facts. All this kerfuffle WILL be forgotten in a few days time and it'll be back to business as usual.
Anyway, i think i've said more than enough for someone who no longer jumps, so i bid ye farewell and return to my retirement. One last thing worth mentioning though....... Pointing out to Dan and anyone who has ever had the fortune/misfortune to have jumped with him, that he has an inordinately large ego is akin to telling Rush Limbaugh that he has a right-wing bias.
It's not gone un-noticed!
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matt002
Apr 16, 2012, 5:00 AM
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6k for some old footage of a jump already closed is fair enough, but getting on board with the Sun newspaper in a sensationalist terrorist panic story is pretty cheap even by today's standards.
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evilivan
Apr 16, 2012, 6:04 AM
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....DAN IS 46?????
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AdamLanes
Apr 16, 2012, 7:12 AM
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Hey Dan, why on earth would you compare yourself, and BASE jumping in general, to terrorism?
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Apr 16, 2012, 7:44 AM
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Lame. Sell out. Uncool.
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Mikki_ZH
Apr 16, 2012, 8:52 AM
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DTM is great, I want to be just like him once I reached his age...
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Apr 16, 2012, 8:56 AM
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AdamLanes wrote: Hey Dan, why on earth would you compare yourself, and BASE jumping in general, to terrorism?
reading between the lines, I assume it is British humor "taking the piss" out of the authorities.
guessing here, but...
- the UEs sold their story
- the Security folks responded saying it was not possible
- the UEs shared pictures
- the Security folks then claimed tight security despite the wayward UEs breach
- the Security folks fear a general security panic with the Olympic games in the summer, and periodic subway closures from bombs or just bomb threats. (I saw Victoria Station closed, severely disrupting rush hour traffic in the early 90's.)
- Dan cashed in, sold his story, and used the terrorist language to stick a finger in the eye of the Security spokesperson.
good?
bad?
not for me to say.
ps
by posting the story himself, he is also "taking the piss" out of all the naysayers here. I bet he is reading this thread and laughing, at least until this "buzzkill" post.
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sky4meplease
Apr 16, 2012, 9:21 AM
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I love the "duty free music".
Wouldn't want to get busted for copy right infringement!
Yeah I said "duty".
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jools
Apr 16, 2012, 9:38 AM
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Oh forgot to mention, Dan is a roofer so he can get you a good deal on the tar if you ask him nicely.
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dantheman
Apr 16, 2012, 9:39 AM
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'Sponsored by just for men,'-ooo, that hurts!
And the'age 46' is obviously a typo.
As always, spreading the love
DTM.
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Apr 16, 2012, 1:36 PM
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I get it. And I also know that most people should understand that a nuke is to heavy to fit in a stash bag. Why people are hating...? don't know and don't care. Take care, Dan, you've done no wrong in my book.
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